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By jimgon (Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 07:51:27 PM EST) (all tags)
"It isn't easy being cheesy."  -- Chester Cheetah, Esq.


I was about to write a diary the other day about  having not much to write about when I decided to not discuss my job or town stuff the other day.  I read iGrrrl's diary and so felt like writing a bit about it.  I miss feeling free to actually write about my life.  I don't mind throwing personal stuff on a public forum like this.  I do mind that people who don't get it will take extreme measures like firing you because  of stuff  you write.  It's happening way too much to web communities and people who write diaries and blogs.  It's a sad fact of the  world that companies  will use infopedia entries to write commercials about their companies, but when individuals write the truth or  vent they get fired or sued.  Note to self, when I'm elected as a state representative I'll spend some time on freedom of speech stuff. 

So I'll vent about the Federal Reserve.  With the Fed opening the window to investment banks they're now making it official that they're in the business of propping up Wall Street.  Bear Stearns went bankrupt last week.  There's no other way of putting it.  They went bankrupt by playing the market on leverage.  They borrowed money to play the market, and they borrowed money to buy and sell mortgage backed securites.  At least in the case of Bear there's a downside, a stock selling at $150 a share a couple months  ago is worth $2 now.  But as this happens to more companies it'll be a straight bail out.  So the  US taxpayer will start bailing out these companies that were run aground.  The net repercussion for Wall Street will be  nil.  Going back to the opening of the window for investment banks the Fed should  be requiring new regulations, but I can guarantee they won't.  That's not free market, nor is government bail outs  of capitalist corporations but the corporations will turn their heads at the double standard.  The next investment bank that tanks should either get sold the way Bear has or go into bankruptcy.  And yes, I'm familiar with the intertwining of the credit markets and the potential that it could bring about  a serious recession but sometimes if you want to play free market you actually have to have one.

That's it for my mostly incoherent vent.  Time for a nap.

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I weep for Bear Stern's executives by georgeha (4.00 / 2) #1 Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 08:13:31 PM EST
some might only get 6 figure severance payments, instead of seven.




Yeah. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #2 Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:28:58 AM EST
On the news the other morning they were going over how the common workers pension funds went from around five-hundred grand to around eleven thousand total. Then they had the audacity to say that that's nothing compared to the management team, who've went from something like five million dollar pensions to "only" three hundred thousand or so. Poor bastards.

But the implication was definitely that the little guys are fine because they're used to it, but those poor upper managers are gonna be starving to death.

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One thing I don't get by Herring (2.00 / 0) #3 Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:58:09 AM EST
and I noticed it with Enron as well: having your retirement savings invested in the company you work for seems pretty dumb. Is it common in the US?

You can't outlaw rabbits! They'll just go underground - Milton Jones
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It's a common con in the US. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #4 Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:14:30 AM EST
Companies use it as an incentive to get workers. My company recently went ESOP, which is an "employee stock ownership program" where the company provides employees with stock based on years of service, but you can't touch that stock until the day you retire. Then, you get full value for the stock from the company and the company takes the stock back to hand out to the next employee. They think that's incentive to work really hard and keep improving the company and blah, blah which you should do anyway if you were any kind of worker at all.

What actually happens is management finds a way to flush the company right before you retire and you're left with enough money to treat yourself to McDonald's.

Of course, what none of these stories cover, and what nobody ever seems to want to mention, is that you CAN invest your own money in other things to provide for retirement. I'd be shocked if any of those multi-zillionaires didn't have stockpiles of retirement funds sitting around elsewhere that nobody's talking about. It's much more fun to say the poor guys will now be broke.

Not so much the case with low-level workers who buy into the lie that the company cares about them and will take care of them after retirement. But if you're that naive, you probably wouldn't be bright enough to save for retirement on your own so it's the only hope you'd have anyway.

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This is exactly the sort of thing by Herring (4.00 / 1) #6 Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:28:00 AM EST
that makes some people over here regard all americans as gullible fools. That and televangelists, disneyland and the republican party.

You can't outlaw rabbits! They'll just go underground - Milton Jones
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You're not that far off. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #8 Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:55:11 AM EST
Most of us over here are rather. . .aduuuuuuuuuuuuur I believe is the correct word.

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Yeah - I've seen the K5 diary section [n/t] by Herring (2.00 / 0) #10 Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 12:07:06 PM EST


You can't outlaw rabbits! They'll just go underground - Milton Jones
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Something else I should mention. by nightflameblue (2.00 / 0) #5 Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:17:53 AM EST
Our ESOP, like most stock options, are not actually "options." You can either take what the company is offering, or take what the company is offering. You are not offered the opportunity to take the same amount in money and invest it elsewhere.

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My corp is about 30% of my 401k by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #7 Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:48:07 AM EST
which is a little high, but then compared to a bud who put all his 401k into our stock when it was at $62 usd, just before it plummeted to $7, it's not as bad. I figure we have a decent product and we're slowly growing revenue.

Plus, there's the whole ESOP thing, too, and pension.


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Decent product by Herring (2.00 / 0) #9 Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:58:36 AM EST
That's all very well, but stock price is not decided by people who know about stuff.

Also, there is the example of the company I was at before it was bought by Crap Corp. It was a partnership but was in the top 3 of its kind, frequently our experts were interviewd on the TV and radio, widely respected etc. We're now 5 years on from the Crap Corp takeover and Crap Corp in the UK now employs 200 people (down from 1700) and most of the clients have fucked off to the consultancies that now get to speak on the news.

You can't outlaw rabbits! They'll just go underground - Milton Jones
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Our experts rarely get interviewed nationally by georgeha (2.00 / 0) #11 Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 12:13:31 PM EST
as we're not in a very glamorous business. We're well regarded in the industry, and our flagship product compares favorably with the other two contenders.

Plus sales are up, sag expenses down, software much more reliable, etc.


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